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		<title>By: Charles II</title>
		<link>http://phoenixwoman.wordpress.com/2008/11/17/now-heres-a-cheery-headline/#comment-29206</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with MEC. Valerie Plame for DNI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with MEC. Valerie Plame for DNI.</p>
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		<title>By: pt bridgeport</title>
		<link>http://phoenixwoman.wordpress.com/2008/11/17/now-heres-a-cheery-headline/#comment-29203</link>
		<dc:creator>pt bridgeport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Charles. I put a lot of trust in Suskind&#039;s journalistic chops, and &lt;em&gt;Solution&lt;/em&gt; contains a lot of valuable information. But it&#039;s clear that Tenet must have been a principal source, as well as being highly regarded by some of Suskind&#039;s other spook sources. Consequently, Suskind seems to have gone overboard in his gratitude for the war stories.

Still, the anecdote about Miscik hating the politicization, and trying to dig in her heels against it, is bound to have serious founding in fact. Obama needs people around who know the spook world. None of them are going to be pure, so I&#039;m willing to settle for one who wasn&#039;t eagerly sycophantic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Charles. I put a lot of trust in Suskind&#8217;s journalistic chops, and <em>Solution</em> contains a lot of valuable information. But it&#8217;s clear that Tenet must have been a principal source, as well as being highly regarded by some of Suskind&#8217;s other spook sources. Consequently, Suskind seems to have gone overboard in his gratitude for the war stories.</p>
<p>Still, the anecdote about Miscik hating the politicization, and trying to dig in her heels against it, is bound to have serious founding in fact. Obama needs people around who know the spook world. None of them are going to be pure, so I&#8217;m willing to settle for one who wasn&#8217;t eagerly sycophantic.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles II</title>
		<link>http://phoenixwoman.wordpress.com/2008/11/17/now-heres-a-cheery-headline/#comment-29186</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tenet as &lt;i&gt;hero&lt;/i&gt;, pt?  

Tenet clearly has a great agent, but he was Bush&#039;s willing servant. I like Suskind, but think that he may have been too desperate to find a good guy in an agency that is led by sycophants and worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tenet as <i>hero</i>, pt?  </p>
<p>Tenet clearly has a great agent, but he was Bush&#8217;s willing servant. I like Suskind, but think that he may have been too desperate to find a good guy in an agency that is led by sycophants and worse.</p>
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		<title>By: pt bridgeport</title>
		<link>http://phoenixwoman.wordpress.com/2008/11/17/now-heres-a-cheery-headline/#comment-29185</link>
		<dc:creator>pt bridgeport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IIRC, Suskind in his &lt;em&gt;One Percent Solution&lt;/em&gt; portrayed Jami Miscik as pushing back vigorously against the pressure to produce that white paper. She kept writing versions that were too honest, Cheney kept sending them back for unspecified revisions (though everybody knew what lies he wanted). And in the end her boss blew up at Cheney&#039;s goons and said this is the final cut, stop leaning on her.

So, to the extent one trusts Suskind (and one has to take into account his casting Tenet as pretty much the hero of the piece), Miscik may have gone along to get along, but she did it with bad grace and good instincts.

Brennan is more worrisome to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IIRC, Suskind in his <em>One Percent Solution</em> portrayed Jami Miscik as pushing back vigorously against the pressure to produce that white paper. She kept writing versions that were too honest, Cheney kept sending them back for unspecified revisions (though everybody knew what lies he wanted). And in the end her boss blew up at Cheney&#8217;s goons and said this is the final cut, stop leaning on her.</p>
<p>So, to the extent one trusts Suskind (and one has to take into account his casting Tenet as pretty much the hero of the piece), Miscik may have gone along to get along, but she did it with bad grace and good instincts.</p>
<p>Brennan is more worrisome to me.</p>
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		<title>By: MEC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MEC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d enjoy watching heads explode if Obama brought in Valerie Plame as an adviser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d enjoy watching heads explode if Obama brought in Valerie Plame as an adviser.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles II</title>
		<link>http://phoenixwoman.wordpress.com/2008/11/17/now-heres-a-cheery-headline/#comment-29177</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 02:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, never forget that Melvin Goodman and Ray McGover, two incredibly decent people, are former CIA analysts. 

But, as with all hierarchies, the people who get promoted tend to be the ones who swallow the Kool Aid. So I wouldn&#039;t look for too many decent people at high levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, never forget that Melvin Goodman and Ray McGover, two incredibly decent people, are former CIA analysts. </p>
<p>But, as with all hierarchies, the people who get promoted tend to be the ones who swallow the Kool Aid. So I wouldn&#8217;t look for too many decent people at high levels.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
		<link>http://phoenixwoman.wordpress.com/2008/11/17/now-heres-a-cheery-headline/#comment-29176</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 02:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me:  There was an AP story today that stated that Obama&#039;s administration didn&#039;t plan to prosecute torturers -- but what the AP story &lt;i&gt;didn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; say was that &lt;a href=&quot;http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/11/17/i-stand-in-front-of-you-i-take-the-force-of-the-blow/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the 2005 Detainee Treatment Act makes that all but impossible anyway.&lt;/a&gt;  However, going after the &lt;i&gt;architects&lt;/i&gt; of torture &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.harpers.org/archive/2008/11/hbc-90003859&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;might well be possible.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me:  There was an AP story today that stated that Obama&#8217;s administration didn&#8217;t plan to prosecute torturers &#8212; but what the AP story <i>didn&#8217;t</i> say was that <a href="http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/11/17/i-stand-in-front-of-you-i-take-the-force-of-the-blow/" rel="nofollow">the 2005 Detainee Treatment Act makes that all but impossible anyway.</a>  However, going after the <i>architects</i> of torture <a href="http://www.harpers.org/archive/2008/11/hbc-90003859" rel="nofollow">might well be possible.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
		<link>http://phoenixwoman.wordpress.com/2008/11/17/now-heres-a-cheery-headline/#comment-29175</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 02:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; high-level intel people we can trust and who are decent human beings?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there <i>any</i> high-level intel people we can trust and who are decent human beings?</p>
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