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The LDS LSD

Posted by Charles II on November 7, 2012

I don’t know Mormon theology well enough to know how accurate this is. But it’s an interesting presentation and very specific in providing a basis for its statements:

Anyone able to comment on the theology?

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6 Responses to “The LDS LSD”

  1. Wege said

    Like ALL Mormon theology, this was something Joseph Smith made up solely for the purpose of making his cult more attractive to weak-minded potential followers. Everything about Mormonism that’s not pulled straight from the Bible is stuff made up by Joseph Smith. Giving this any thought at all is thinking way too hard about it. I would recommend you read Mark Twain on the Book of Mormon. http://www.truthandgrace.com/twainbom.htm

    • Charles II said

      I imagine the Jews said much the same about the Christians and perhaps the Zoroastrians about the Jews. As I commented to a friend, it doesn’t matter if the Bible is “true” in the sense scientists use the word: it is beautiful, in asserting that we are to be kind to one another, treasure peace, and do justice. Even if it were proven to be an invention, its core message is true in an incontrovertible way.

      But I do not get the same sense of beauty from Mormonism. It seems, to paraphrase Twain, like a parody of the Bible.

      Anyway, what interested me about the video was that it presented the history of racial discrimination in the LDS.

      • Wege said

        I don’t know how to separate real religious bullshit from phony religious bullshit, but I think I know it when I see it. You’re exactly right when you talk about a “sense of beauty.” Mormonism is a gray, convoluted con, and like all cons they work to build an us vs. them zeitgeist, and African Americans are about as “them” as it gets.

      • Charles II said

        Wege, I meant to say, that’s a great link to Mark Twain.

  2. Dickeylee said

    You really didn’t need slaves when you had 9 wives to take of all the work. And you then want “them” around your women now did you? Wink wwink nod nod.

    • Stormcrow said

      You really didn’t need slaves when you had 9 wives to take of all the work.

      Actually, you did, if you were dead-set on operating a plantation anywhere in the Southeastern coastal US, the Caribbean, or the northern coast of South America. Up until 1900 at least.

      Starting from about 1650 and going on right through to about 1900, if you didn’t use West Africans or people mostly descended from West Africans, you’d lose most of your labor force to malaria and yellow fever within a very few years.

      See Mosquito Empires. McNeill goes over 350 years of people with the wrong immune portfolios, dying like flies, in a hell of a lot of detail for only 400 pages.

      it wasn’t just plantation workforces, either. Scottish and French would-be colonists, penal colonies, entire armies, basically anybody and everybody whose physiology wasn’t already prepared for the assault, was liable to end up in a pine overcoat. Particularly if they lived in areas the mosquitoes preferred. Look up the “Darien disaster” – it was typical of what would happen, though the Wikipedia piece doesn’t go into nearly as many details as McNeill does.

      By the beginning of the 19′th century, the risks were sufficiently common knowledge to spark mass resignations among officers, and mutinies among European troops who were told they’d be sent to the “West Indies”. The Revolutionary French called French Guyana the “dry guillotine”, when they exiled most of the old parliament there, only to see most of them buried within five years. The leaders of both the Bolivian and Cuban wars of independence consciously used this asymmetry against the Spanish, to devastating effect.

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