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The Screws Tighten On Micheletti’s Honduran Coup

Posted by Phoenix Woman on July 3, 2009

Even as the OAS works to get Honduran president Manuel “Mel” Zelaya back into office, The Obama administration is cutting off any and all US aid that Honduras has been getting, in keeping with the worldwide goal of making it a pariah state. The World Bank is also putting its aid program on hold.

At this point, it becomes a waiting game. And a guessing game: Namely, which nation will Roberto Micheletti the coup leader flee to when he is overthrown and Mel Zelaya restored? Some think Colombia, others El Salvador; some suggest Italy, Micheletti’s ancestral homeland, where Berlusconi would no doubt give him a warm welcome. He’ll have to remember to take his nephew, William Hall Micheletti, who he just installed as mayor of Honduras’ second-largest city despite the lad’s only coming in a distant third in the recent mayoral elections.

9 Responses to “The Screws Tighten On Micheletti’s Honduran Coup”

  1. It appears that the arrest of president Zelaya was legal, the deportation was not. He was subversive of the Honduras constitution prohibition of continuismo, the penalty for which is immediate loss of office.

  2. Charles II said

    That’s not correct, Mahakal. The coupistas have been very assiduous in generating a false story that the vote Zelaya was trying to hold was to extend his own presidency. That is, as I said, false. He was trying to have a vote to hold a Constitutional Convention to re-write the Constitution.

    Now, conceivably the Convention would have eliminated the provision that prohibits re-election… but it would have occurred after the presidential election. He would not have been continuing in power under any circumstances.

    The best English language link I can provide is here. There are better links in Spanish, but I have already provided them below.

    Added: The OAS has ruled that the removal from office was unconstitutional. They don’t do stuff like this casually, because the member states know that it could be used against them. Also, the UN has declared that the process was unconstitutional. Naturally, these determinations aren’t final until there has been due process, but the same can be said of of the decision to remove Zelaya. Since he was unable to present a defense of his actions, it simply doesn’t meet the standards of international law (“Anyone who is deprived of his liberty by arrest or detention shall be entitled to take proceedings before a court, in order that court may decide without delay on the lawfulness of his detention and order his release if the detention is not lawful. “).

    This is the sad state of our media. Unless you know foreign languages and consult foreign sites, you will be lied to.

  3. I’ve been hearing from some people in Honduras that speak English. Zelaya was setting himself up as a dictator above the Congress and the Supreme Court. That is what you are defending.

  4. Again, I’m not saying his deportation was legal. I’m saying it was probably not. He should be brought back and arrested as per court order.

  5. Charles II said

    Mike, excuse me, but you are simply wrong. There is not one scintilla of actual evidence that Zelaya was becoming a dictator. The coupistas have repeated this lie endlessly in order to sway American public opinion.

  6. The Honduran Supreme Court and Congress would disagree with you. Would you overthrow their judgment to force a president upon Honduras?

    Let the man be returned for trial.

  7. Charles II said

    Truth is not decided by majority vote. Al Gore was faced by a Congress and a Supreme Court that, in the face of all facts, all law, and all reason denied him due process and the presidency that he had won.

    The OAS has judged the entire government wrong. It–not I– has the authority to overthrow them, though I doubt it would use it in these circumstances. But the Honduran people also have the authority to overthrow the government, and I would not be surprised if they do.

    But let us return to the basic facts of the matter, which is where I think you are confused. The Honduran “Supreme Court” you are talking about is not even as distinguished as the Scalia Court. It is an electoral court (see p. 71), not that the real Supreme Court is any bargain. Indeed, that’s one of the problems. A genuine complaint of this kind should be adjudicated by the regular courts.

    Zelaya is doing his very best to return: a brave act, the act of a man who believes in what he is doing.

  8. This is not a parallel of Bush v Gore and there is no purpose relitigating that. Obviously we are not going to agree here, but if you think the OAS has some credibility to override the Honduran constitution, I doubt it.

  9. Charles II said

    On this narrow point, I will concede that you are right. The OAS does not have the right to intervene. The UN does.

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