Mercury Rising 鳯女

Politics, life, and other things that matter

Honduras coup, Act III, Day 31/ Update 3

Posted by Charles II on August 23, 2009

Llorens and Zelaya

Update2:  Associated with that brilliant picture from El Libertador (I took the liberty of supplying the obvious caption), we have the text of a letter that Zelaya wrote to Llorens, and it’s not quite as sweet:

It’s obvious that your perspective differs from that of the Honduran people and that the US will not dispose  its interests to defend Honduras, but I will guarantee to you, Mr. Ambassador, that in the long view, this situation will have serious repercussions for the entire hemisphere and history will condemn the US for not having defended a legitimate democracy in a country which today more than ever is fragmenting due to misery and injustice. You know the danger of a scenario like this (of a coup), not only for Honduras but for the whole hemisphere, setting a dreadful precedent for the region and the world, leaving the United States before the world as a weak society or as one without democratic intentions

It goes on at length, never getting less frank, saying (paraphrase):

  • The coupistas feel supported and encouraged
  • You know how things were under John Negroponte [death squads]
  • The only laments I hear are not from the coupistas, but from the Honduran people, to whom you are deaf
  • You have no empathy for those whose human rights are being violated
  • On various occasions, you have shown the great generosity of Secretary Clinton in asking you not to leave Honduras while the UN and the OAS ordered the departure of ambassadors from Honduras.
  • It’s indisuptable that the Arias proposal, made by Secretary Clinton, is being manipulated by the de facto regime and that it permits them to impose conditions and agendas
  • Regarding Barack Obama’s declarations that it’s hypocrisy to ask the US to intervene, who are the hypocrites. It seems that the coupistas know things you don’t want the world to know. This conduct daily diminishes the stature of the US. The US intervenes whenever and wherever it wants to, so we understand that it’s not convenient for you that President Zelaya returns to Honduras.
  • Honduras is being looted and the thieves will go to Miami with what they’ve stolen
  • We hold you and Secretary Clinton responsible for those who have died or been wounde.
  • We would like to know your intentions
  • Added: Zelaya added to that a statement on Radio Globo that people should not participate in elections, because that is a way of legitimizing the coup. He believes that the coupistas will be judged by an international court and sentenced to life in prison.

    Correction. Section 7008 of Public Law 111–8 forbids all assistance to governments formed through coups. See below for the exact text. My error. Mea culpa.
    Update3: Miguel Angel Ferrer, via Narconews:

    It’s well known that one of the largest supporters of the coup against Honduran president Manuel Zelaya, was a Cuban multi-millionaire named Rafael Hernández Nodarse; more commonly know by his alias “Ralph H. Nodarse.” He is the owner of San Pedro Sula’s most popular TV station, Channel 6, which has played a decisive role in the justification of the coup and in the campaign to support Micheleti and the other insurrectionists.

    Perhaps slightly less well known is that, before the coup, Ralph Nodarse was an active participant in assassination attempts against president Zelaya. And it may not be common knowledge, outside of Honduras, that his name came to light in a bombing attempt against former Honduran president Carlos Roberto Reina.

    Outside of Honduras people probably don’t know about the meetings Nodarse held in his San Padro Sula house with members of the Miami mafia to plan action against President Zelaya and his chancellor, Patricia Rodas, for their pro- Cuba posture in the meetings in Trinidad and Toago in April; two months before Micheleti’s coup in June.

    Narconews has two other articles, one a humorous but informative one by Belen Fernandez and the other by Al Giordano on how the teachers are adapting

    Brother John has a nice piece about doing aid work not as a top-down, this-is-how-you’re-going-to-do-it effort, but as a community. Sustainability, disaster prevention, and a little bit of cash for the community are all part of the planning.

    And Radio Globo goes to static, at 10:20PM.

    Update: The concert is on Radio Liberado. (oops. Looks like a few other people figured it out. Net congestion is bad. It’s not quite as much fun hearing every other note.)

    Through the lips of Justice Minister Oscar Raúl Matute, the coupistas have threatened Father Tamayo with expulsion. Since he’s a naturalized citizen, this is of course a flagrant violation of the Honduran Constitution.

    From TeleSur, an image of a protestor silenced by tape over his/her mouth (Image from TeleSur) According to Andrés Sal.lari, in an Orwellian moment, the regime forbade the use of the words “crisis” or “polarization” by the media. He has some tart words for Robert Rivard of the San Antonio Express-News and president of the Commission on Freedom of the Press and Information of SIP-IAPA, who yelled censorship when El Heraldo was firebombed by unknown persons (with, as recall, no significant damages) but has been remarkably silent about journalists being murdered and threatened.

    RAJ parses the Supreme Court’s statement regarding the San Jose “Accord.” (Spanish here). RAJ points out that the document essentially concedes that due process had not run its course at the point that Zelaya was punted.

    Adrienne Pine has a translation of a piece by Alejandro Silbian that describes the electoral landscape. In the 2005 election, the Liberal Party obtained about 45% of both the presidential and congressional vote, the National Party got 42%, minor parties got 3.5%, and null/blank ballots were slightly over 9%. Participation had fallen to 55%. Silbiano explains how the political establishment and the military have tainted themselves by connection to the coup to the point that free and fair elections are an impossibility. Listen to Adrienne on archival KPFA (starts about 2/3 of the way through the program).

    Global Exchange visited and reports:

    The international corporate media is largely absent, and reporting we’ve seen by them is often inaccurate and cursory. CNN En Español bears a heavy responsibility for accuracy and neutrality because many Hondurans considered it to be the truth. Unfortunately their coverage of the August 11 th demonstration adopted the coup regime’s point of view and assumed that post-rally vandalism was caused by demonstrators. An overwhelming number of the national and local media are biased, inflammatory, and favor the coup and its backers….Many Hondurans look at U.S. reaction to the coup as being two-faced and lukewarm because of its contradictory statements about whether the coup was a “military coup” thus invoking Section 7008 of the FY2009 US Foreign Operations Law requiring the U.S. to cut all aid except humanitarian aid. …U.S. and Japan are the only two countries that have not withdrawn their ambassadors.

    Correction: I have been in error about which language controls. Global Exchange is correct.


    123 STAT. 862 PUBLIC LAW 111–8—MAR. 11, 2009
    Omnibus Appropriations Act, 2009.

    SEC. 7008. None of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available pursuant to titles III through VI of this Act shall be obligated or expended to finance directly any assistance to the government of any country whose duly elected head of government is deposed by military coup or decree: Provided, That assistance
    may be resumed to such government if the President determines and certifies to the Committees on Appropriations that subsequent to the termination of assistance a democratically elected government
    has taken office: Provided further, That the provisions of this section shall not apply to assistance to promote democratic elections or public participation in democratic processes: Provided further, That
    funds made available pursuant to the previous provisos shall be subject to the regular notification procedures of the Committees on Appropriations.



    According to Tiempo, details of the human rights commission (CIDH) report are more damning that previously known. They have a military communication stating that the police fired on some of the demonstrators, killing four, and that the bullets were identical to those used by the Public Force. They also list five people as disappeared and point out that the police even clubbed (or choked) an elderly lady sitting on a park bench because she was unlucky enough to see them torturing a minor. In addition to the woman who was raped, they relate the story of a woman who was stripped to the waist and clubbed (or choked). There was sexual abuse of men as well, who were beaten in the testicles and on the buttocks. De facto Chancellor Carlos López Contreras says there was no reason to call it excessive force, because police just use sufficient force when protestors get out of control and threaten human life and the security of property.

    As if that proof that the State Department is breaking Public Law 110-329 were not enough, the last shred of any figleaf over Hillary Clinton’s tender parts shriveled as the Honduran Supreme Court rejected almost all aspects of the “Accord” of San Jose, claiming that it is contrary to national laws. They did agree to have Zelaya renounce the survey he planned to do.

    The Catholic church, through the publication FIDES, has gotten around to suggesting dialogue to resolve the crisis.

    5 Responses to “Honduras coup, Act III, Day 31/ Update 3”

    1. This really is unfolding much like a slo-mo version of the 2002 coup effort against Chavez, isn’t it?

    2. Fides is the publication of the archdiocese of Tegucigalpa, but is distributed in other parts of the country.
      This is not the first time the call for a dialogue has been heard. But a lot depends on who says it and what they really mean. Radio Progreso and Eric-SJ issued a call for Rationality and Dialogue two days before the coup.The bishops have called for dialogue in a June 19 statement as well as int he July 4 statement read by the Cardinal on TV and radio.
      The question remains – dialogue for what and about what.
      Isn’t it the case that some de facto government people suggested a truth (sic) commission.
      Whose truth adn whose dialogue?

      • Charles II said

        That’s a big B-I-N-G-O for you, Brother John. On June 19th, a call for dialogue was a major step forward. Now, what if anything does does it really mean? We’ll be lucky if this doesn’t end in civil war.

        It is the case that the de facto regime called for a truth commission. See here for discussion.

    3. […] Charles II on Williams 1, Chomsky 0Ovid on Lockerbie: What The US Press W…Charles II on Honduras coup, Act III, Day 31…John Donaghy on Honduras coup, Act III, Day 31…Charles II on Honduras coup, Act III, Day […]

    Sorry, the comment form is closed at this time.

    %d bloggers like this: