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US wages match India’s

Posted by Charles II on August 17, 2010

James Lamont and Joe Leahy of FT report that it now costs as much to hire someone in a US call center as in an Indian one. The owners of Indian call centers are now threatening to replace their workers with Americans. Suresh Vaswani, who is co-CEO of Wipro, says that his workforce will increase from 39% non-Indian to 50% non-Indian.

How much further can this farce run before the American people understand that they’re being taken advantage of?

5 Responses to “US wages match India’s”

  1. Stormcrow said

    How much further can this farce run before the American people understand that they’re being taken advantage of?

    Evidently, all the way to yet a third Great Depression and beyond. Since we’re well into the second one at this point, and they still have not tumbled to the nature of the scam.

    America has the most pervasive system of cradle-to-grave propaganda I’ve ever heard of. Goes back a loooong way, too.

    Here’s a rhetorical question for you: why did the 1940 cinema version of “The Grapes of Wrath” have an ending so completely changed from Steinbeck’s original?

    Of course, I’m sure you know why.

    The pervasive propaganda system was well in place and banging out its message decades before either of us was born.

    BTW, this also says something interesting about the robustness of a decentralized control system.

    Centralized control systems, such as the USSR’s rulers once used, weren’t nearly as effective, nor did they remain in place for as long, as ours.

    • Charles II said

      Not disagreeing, but a decentralized control system simply means that there is consensus among the people who run things about what is acceptable and what is not. Culture can be thought of as a decentralized control system.

      In the case of the USSR, centralization may have simply been a necessary consequence of the fact that so many things were going wrong and on such a scale that it wasn’t even possible to let people even at very high levels know what was going on. Since consensus was impossible, it was necessary to have a madman run things.

    • And of course, there was the 1950’s Hollywood butchering of The Quiet American.

      • Charles II said

        Look, this kind of censorship has been going on for a very long time. St. Paul’s epistles were very likely modified to exert control over women. A distant relative of mine edited his edition of the Bible to remove dicey statements like “Adam knew Eve.” People are always trying to exert control over others, often by controlling media. People who had read The Grapes of Wrath or The Quiet Man knew what was being attempted, and used that knowledge as evidence that Hollywood was attempting to manipulate. The effort backfired.

        Usually, as our Founders hoped might happen in government and just as in the difference between the books and the movies, conflicting ideas about the desired end lead to enough diversity of thought and action that the truth can win out in the end. What makes it dangerous is when there is a consensus as to what is allowed into media, such that it becomes such a suffocating miasma of bulls–t that the truth has no field on which to do battle.

        People who are misled make bad decisions. Bad decisions lead to ruin. The system of propaganda falls.

  2. Stormcrow said

    “Culture” != “consensus among the people who run things about what is acceptable and what is not”

    Not in my lexicon, anyway.

    And in the case of the USSR, the drivers of centralization weren’t really hypothetical.

    In the first place, the official Soviet ideology amounted to “utopia by means of armed force”. A couple of civil wars later (yeah, Reds versus Whites wasn’t the only one or even the worst one), the government that emerged was going to centralize everything it possibly could.

    In the second place, this happened in Russia: a country cursed by its geography with the most intractable barriers to development of any similarly sized region I can think of excepting Africa. And Africa’s problems have historical root causes, not geographic ones.

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