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Posted by Charles II on June 26, 2012

First, some straight talk from James Earl Carter:

THE United States is abandoning its role as the global champion of human rights.

our country can no longer speak with moral authority on these critical issues.

At a time when popular revolutions are sweeping the globe, the United States should be strengthening, not weakening, basic rules of law and principles of justice enumerated in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. But instead of making the world safer, America’s violation of international human rights abets our enemies and alienates our friends.

As concerned citizens, we must persuade Washington to reverse course and regain moral leadership according to international human rights norms that we had officially adopted as our own and cherished throughout the years.

While his OpEd is mostly about torture, wiretapping, and targeted assassination, it seems oddly relevant in light of the following short play called Our State Department:

QUESTION: On Paraguay.


QUESTION: A couple of things. First of all regarding the conversation yesterday, has there been any further determination on the part of the U.S. about what happened in Paraguay, whether this constitutes a coup or more broadly whether the U.S. has objections to what took place in Paraguay?

MS. NULAND: Well, as you know, we are having consultations in the OAS today, and we would expect that the OAS will come forward after those consultations. As a general matter, we haven’t called this a coup because the processes were followed. I think the question is one of speed. And the OAS is looking at how it can support the Paraguayan democratic process going forward. You know that they’re supposed to have elections in 2013, which need to go forward. So I think we will refrain from further comment until we see how we come out of the OAS meeting. But our interest remains in protecting and preserving Paraguayan democracy.

QUESTION: Sure. The current leadership in Paraguay – does the U.S. recognize them as legitimate – the current president?

MS. NULAND: Again, we are going to be guided by the conversation that we have at the OAS about how we should deal with formers, currents, all those kinds of things.

QUESTION: When you said you –



QUESTION: And just – you issued a response to a question yesterday. President Lugo – then-President Lugo a day before the impeachment to go in at his own request to the U.S. Embassy.

MS. NULAND: Right.

QUESTION: I just wanted to see if there’s any more substance that you can tell us, what happened, what was the nature of the conversation. Obviously, the fact that this was right before his impeachment draws questions about what was discussed there.

MS. NULAND: Yeah. I wish I did. I have nothing more for you there, Sean.

QUESTION: You said you haven’t called it a coup because the processes were followed. Does that mean you’ve decided it’s not a coup?

MS. NULAND: Yeah. We have not decided to call it a coup because it was – there were constitutional processes that were followed. The concerns that we’ve had, as we said yesterday, were that the process seemed to be extremely speedy, so –

QUESTION: Her question – that wasn’t her question. Her question was: Have you decided not to call it a coup?

MS. NULAND: I think, again, we will make our final conclusions on all of this as we see how the OAS comes forward.


QUESTION: So if the OAS decides that this was a coup —

MS. NULAND: Said, you’re taking me into all kinds of hypotheticals that I’m not going into.

QUESTION: You said that you will be consistent with the OAS decision. If they decide that it was a coup, that means that you will recognize it as such?

MS. NULAND: Again, I’m not going to prejudge the outcome of the meeting until we’ve had the meeting.


QUESTION: Can we change the subject?

2 Responses to “Double your pleasure, double your fun with Doubletalk! Doubletalk! Doubletalk dumb!”

  1. Phoenix Woman said

    Geez, can it be any more obvious that a) they’re waiting for word on how the transnationals that are the major donors to both parties view this, or b) they already know the TransNats approve of the coup but it’s impolitic to say so in public?

    • Charles II said

      I think it can’t be more obvious that the US engineered this coup, but then I’m a cynic when it comes to the US record in Latin America.

      I will note that Lugo visited with the American ambassador just days before the coup…exactly as Zelaya did before the coup in Honduras.

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