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The basic debate factcheck

Posted by Charles II on October 3, 2012

Romneycat reviews the debate

All from NYT:

Catherine Rampell: Mr. Romney promised to create 12 million jobs over the next four years if he is elected president. That is actually about as many jobs as the economy is already expected to create, according to some economic forecasters.

Robert Pear [fact check FAIL]: Listing his objections to the new health care law, Mr. Romney said: “It puts in place an unelected board that’s going to tell people, ultimately, what kind of treatments they can have. I don’t like that idea.” [Pear fails to point out that the Board cannot act without the assent of Congress, meaning that this is a lie, and that if people have the money to pay for it, of course they can get treatment, so a double lie].

Richard Perez-Pena: “I’m not going to cut education funding,” including grants for college, Mr. Romney said…. The governor’s position paper on education says he would “refocus Pell Grants dollars on the students who need them most,” suggesting that fewer people would qualify. Democrats also interpret the budget plan of his running mate, Representative Paul D. Ryan, to mean a steep cut in the size of the program.

Catherine Rampell [fact check FAIL]: Mr. Romney said repeatedly that Massachusetts has the top-ranked schools in the country.

Using data from the National Assessment of Educational Progress, a large national standardized test, The Daily Beast ranked Massachusetts at the top. [but what connection is there between that and Romney policies as governor?]

John Broder: A number of readers, including Patty Freeman-Lynde from Athens, asked about Mr. Romney’s charge that half the companies invested in under the president’s green energy stimulus have gone out of business.

That is a gross overstatement. Of nearly three dozen recipients of loans under the Department of Energy’s loan guarantee program, only three are currently in bankruptcy, although several others are facing financial difficulties.

Trip Gabriel: Mr. Romney rejected the charge. “I’m not going to cut education funding,” he said. “I don’t have a plan to cut education funding.”

But in the past Mr. Romney has said he would do just that.

Richard Perez Pena: Mr. Obama said of his opponent that “when he tells a student you should borrow money from your parents to go to college,” it calls into question whether Mr. Romney realizes that some people “don’t have that option.” [but maybe Romney was referring to borrowing money to start a business, which certainly resonates with the majority of American families who do not have the money to start a business].

Robert Pear [fact check FAIL]: Mr. Romney said in the debate that Mr. Obama’s health care overhaul would allow the federal government to “take over health care,” an assertion rejected by the president.

The 2010 health care law clearly expands the role of the federal government. But it also builds on the foundation of private health insurance, providing subsidies for millions of low- and moderate-income people to buy private insurance.[Pear manages not to state that Robamneycare is clearly not a “take-over”]

Annie Lowrey: Mr. Romney argued that Dodd-Frank, Mr. Obama’s financial regulatory reform law, designated certain financial firms as “too big to fail,” giving them a “blank check” and implicit government backing.

The law does designate some financial institutions as “systemically important.” But it also puts them under significant additional regulatory scrutiny and requires them to write “living wills,” telling the government how to unwind them.

Michael Cooper: Repealing Mr. Obama’s health care law, which Mr. Romney said he would do, would actually increase the federal deficit.[unstated: this refutes the Romney claim that Robamneycare adds to the deficit]

So, there you have it. Romney will get a bounce because he gained stature simply by standing on the stage with the President and not coming off as a complete ass.

But he’s still a lying schmuck, and his policies cannot save this country.

Meanwhile, better fact checkers, please. Also, a debate moderator would help.

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