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“Strong, Concrete Suspicions” Syrian Rebels Used Chemical Weapons Like Sarin

Posted by Phoenix Woman on August 28, 2013

Back in May, UN official Carla del Ponte told Swiss television that there were “strong, concrete suspicions” that the Syrian rebels used a chemical weapon, sarin nerve gas, in their Saudi-backed fight to topple the Assad régime:

In an interview with Swiss-Italian TV on Sunday, Ms Del Ponte, who serves as a commissioner on the panel, said: “Our investigators have been in neighbouring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals.

“According to their report of last week, which I have seen, there are strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated.”

Sarin, a colourless, odourless liquid or gas which can cause respiratory arrest and death, is classed as a weapon of mass destruction and is banned under international law.

Ms Del Ponte, a former Swiss attorney-general and prosecutor with the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY), did not rule out the possibility that troops loyal to President Bashar al-Assad might also have used chemical weapons, but said further investigation was needed.

“I was a little bit stupefied by the first indications we got… they were about the use of nerve gas by the opposition,” she said.

Bear this in mind when hearing about the latest rush to attack Syria.

9 Responses to ““Strong, Concrete Suspicions” Syrian Rebels Used Chemical Weapons Like Sarin”

  1. This article is from May 6

    • Charles II said

      That point is stated quite clearly by Phoenix Woman in the very first sentence.

      Since the larger point seems to have eluded you as dextrously as the smaller one, it is that the Syrian rebels are apparently quite willing to use chemical weapons, presumably as a means to bring the United States into the conflict. That’s not surprising, considering that some of those rebels are actually Al Qaida.

      Now, perhaps the Assad regime has lost the thread and decided to do the one thing that could cause it to lose the conflict. They certainly are brutal enough to use chemical weapons. But they haven’t stayed in power by being stupid.

      • I was viewing this from my phone, and went directly to the link.
        Do you think the rebels would have used these weapons without the US government knowing if we presume they used it? And if they did, who gave it to them?

      • Charles II said

        If the rebels were responsible, and if the particular rebels who used the weapons were Al Qaida, I think it’s doubtful they would have sought approval from the US government, Marwasocialmedia. They would have relied on the stupidity of the American government to get sucked into yet another conflict.

        Meanwhile Foreign Policy is claiming that the US government has intercepts of phone conversations that prove that the Syrian government is responsible. Whether that’s true or just the same sort of baloney we heard in the run-up to Iraq is yet to be seen.

  2. Stormcrow said

    I recall reading some hard words here, after the 2012 election, when I told you folks I’d voted for the Green candidate. Since the Greens, idiots though they surely are, didn’t have a hope in hell of winning a single electoral vote.

    The idea of voting for 0, after 4 years of a constant never-ending drumroll of lies and betrayal, was simply more than i could stomach.

    So what do you think now?

    Now that 0’s managed to buy into another con-job? And is about to both start yet another war and permanently alienate both the government and the people of Syria?

    Do you really think his oath of office means more to him than the content of one of his throwaway speeches?

    • Charles II said

      You must be thinking of some other site, Stormcrow. Although I think third party votes tend to be a waste of the microscopic power each of us has, I’ve always said that people should vote however they wish. I’m pretty sure neither PW nor MEC have ever been Obots.

      I spent 15 minutes trying to find the relevant comment. I think it’s here, on this thread. I don’t think PW’s comment was directed at you, but at those on the left who think that if electoral politics collapses, somehow Utopia will emerge. I mentioned that in some situations, such as in Honduras after the coup, it may be–or at least seem to be– rational to boycott the electoral process.

      As for now, in the last year, Obama has managed to underperform my modest expectations.In his response to Snowden (especially in forcing down President Morales’ plane), and in his getting trapped into war with Syria, his policy has been the worst possible outcome for the Empire. In his Grand Bargain talk and in (we expect) appointing people like Larry Summers and Ray Kelly, he is in the process of alienating exactly the people he needs.

      Meanwhile, I have written to Congress asking them to assert their powers. It’s what I can do.

  3. Stormcrow said

    Do you think the rebels would have used these weapons without the US government knowing if we presume they used it?

    Rhetorical question.

    I’ll answer it with another: do you really think the US has either the intel assets on-site (read “spys”) which can return a reliable report about this, or means of detecting the release of sarin aerosols from at least a hundred miles away (i.e., outside the Syrian border)?

    They’d need one or the other.

    And if they did, who gave it to them?

    Who knows? You don’t need to be a major industrial power to manufacture the stuff: Aum Shinrikyo managed that on their own, and they weren’t even a nation-state. So the field of possible candidates is truly vast.

    Not that any of this matters now: Obama has bought into a story that’s almost certainly fiction, and he’s going to use it to “justify” yet another obscenely destructive war.

    And this will not change the eventual fate of Syria one iota. Either way this falls out, the country will end up being run by a dictator.

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