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So What’s Really Happening In Ukraine?

Posted by Phoenix Woman on March 17, 2014

Hint: It’s not as clear-cut as the anchors at RT (the ones who haven’t quit in protest, anyway) make it seem.

Just as it’s hard to know what’s really going on in Latin America without a working knowledge of Spanish, it’s hard to know what’s really going on in Ukraine and Russia without at least a working knowledge of Russian. I don’t have that knowledge, but I know someone who does, and here’s what he has to say:

Suzanne Buck, Philip Munger would you PLEASE show this to the freaks who are saying Ukraine is being run by fascists now?

Look, bottom line:

Yanukovich asked the Berkut (Riot Police) to fire on the Ukranian People. The Berkut chief declined and RESIGNED which was the right thing to do. That is what the Occupy people here would have said, right?

And that caused a crisis; particularly for the “Party of Regions” which is Yanukovich’s party. The Rada (Ukranian Parliament) agreed, and so did Party of Regions with the Riot Police guy and said ” FUCK YOU – YOU CANNOT order our soldiers to fire on our people!”

Fast forward to today; in Russia the opposition news networks have been silenced – the NDAA or SOPA the Left in the US has feared was just put in place by – PUTIN! You can get Channel Rain or Echo of Moscow – but Russians and Ukrainians can’t.

So you tell these idiots at FDL they have been backing the wrong horse in this race. Dan Wright in particular. Fucking wrong from the first day he bothered to notice the Maidan.

From my friends in the U:


3 Responses to “So What’s Really Happening In Ukraine?”

  1. Charles II said

    Just as I would say that the situation is not as simple as just an American soft coup in the Ukraine, I think you friend’s analysis is not compete either.

    There’s no question that Yanukovych is a very bad character, one who has maintained his position through (past attempted) electoral fraud, financial corruption, and bribery. There’s also no question that the order for troops to fire on protestors was an overreach, and a crime in itself. There was an internal rebellion to Yanukovich’s order to shoot. And anyone who thinks that the neo-fascists are outright running things are clearly mistaken. A constitutional government of sorts is operating. If this were all there was to the story, we’d call this a simple example of a popular uprising forcing new elections.

    But this is not all there is to the story. There is no question that the US has been funding the dissidents. There is also now little question that powerful financial interests, such as Chevron and ADM stand to benefit from regime change, and are helping it come about. It’s also pretty clear that there is a neoconservative faction in the US government that has little patience for legality. They think that a government should fall, and so they put the resources of the US government to work to make it fall, by fair means or foul.

    Also, the fears about neo-fascists ultimately holding power are not at all groundless. The protesters at whom the troops were shooting were violent neo-fascists. Just as in Egypt, soccer hooligans were the shock troops of the opposition to Mubarak, the neo-fascists were the shock troops of the resistance to Yanukovich. But the soccer hooligans were not organized, and had no desire for political power. They just liked fighting. The ultra-right in Ukraine is well-organized and it wants power.

    This is why it is so important to preserve the actual constitutional order, and not merely a semblance of it. Yanukovich needs to be removed from power by constitutional means. How exactly that is done is not clear to me, given that the president holds extraordinary powers. But I know that forcing a lawfully-elected president into hiding is not a real solution.

    Elections were not far away, so it is suspicious to me that Yanukovich had to go right away. The rebellion in law enforcement and his own party had stripped away much of his real power.It was time to make accusations against him for crimes, try him for those crimes, and remove him by orderly means. Your friend thinks this is about picking winners. It’s not. It’s about ensuring that the next change of power, and all changes of power after that are done through elections or other lawful

    Our country above all others should know that. Richard Nixon used unlawful means to intimidate, jail, and perhaps even kill dissidents. But it was through the process of removing him through orderly means that genuine change was accomplished. Nixon’s misdeeds, and the misdeeds of the FBI, CIA, and NSA were exposed and genuine reforms enacted. It was far from a perfect outcome, and it was far too slow, but it is by obeying the law that dissidents change societies.

  2. jo6pac said

    I think these are closer to the truth as to what happen in the Ukraine

    Here’s three sites that have been following this since the beginning and are able to see through the media fog.

    This type of evil active from the so-called liberal neo-conns will continue until they are removed from power in Amerika and I don’t see that happening any time soon.

    Then there is this on the use of snipers.

    • Charles II said

      Sorry about the delay on posting this comment, Jo. The anti-spam software apparently doesn’t like lots of links.

      I’ll try to look at some of these links tomorrow or Saturday. Thanks for them.

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