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If A Homeopathic Drug Works, Look At Its “Inert” Ingredients

Posted by Phoenix Woman on March 12, 2015

<font size=”2″>I’ve noted elsewhere that Nelsons Acne Gel, which is surprisingly effective for a homeopathic treatment, has alcohol and tea tree oil among its “inert” ingredients:

Here’s the list of “active” ingredients, making up 9% of the total product: Extracts of organically grown Arnica montana tincture 2.5%, Calendula officinalis tincture 2.5%, Hypericum perforatum tincture 2.5%, Sulfur 6x 1.5%

Now here’s the list of “inactive” ingredients, making up the other 91% of the product: Alcohol, Carbomer [of what?], Methylparaben, Purified Water, Tea tree oil, Trolamine.

You tell me which ingredients are more likely to do a number on acne.

It is true that sulfur would normally be considered a pretty potent anti-acne medicine, but at a 6x dilution — meaning that it’s literally a millionth of what it once was — it’s practically nonexistent in this gel.

Now, I think I’ve found another example of this phenomenon: Traumeel. Once again, alcohol is one of the few ingredients with a possible pharmacological effect to be present in meaningful doses, yet it is listed as an “inert” ingredient:

…Traumeel ointment is 13.8% alcohol. Rubbing an alcohol-based ointment into the skin is likely to produce a cooling effect — exactly what you might be looking for if you’ve got a bruise, injury or swelling.

Want to duplicate the cooling effect of Traumeel ointment? Use pretty much any ointment with a similar percentage of alcohol in its makeup.


7 Responses to “If A Homeopathic Drug Works, Look At Its “Inert” Ingredients”

  1. Charles II said

    Yeah, it’s pretty hard to see how these are tolerated in a modern society. There’s no evidence that homeopathics work (except through the placebo effect), a number of their ingredients are known to be harmful, and yet they are unregulated.

  2. These are “low potency”, material doses in 2.5% tincture form. I can’t even see how a materialist can object. Even 6C potency is above the Avogadro limit, 6x is more like 3C. As for the electrostatic storage of information in water, at “higher” potencies and dilutions, we don’t even need to go there.

    • Charles II said

      From our premier national medical science organization, the National Institutes of Health:

      How much do we know about homeopathic medicines?

      We have a fair amount of research on homeopathic medicine for a variety of conditions, but less evidence on its safety, particularly for over-the-counter products.
      What do we know about the effectiveness of homeopathic products?

      In studies, homeopathic medicines generally aren’t better than a placebo (which is identical in appearance to the treatment being studied but contains no active ingredients) for any health condition.
      Homeopathic immunizations don’t effectively replace conventional immunizations.

      What do we know about the safety of homeopathic products?

      In general, highly dilute homeopathic medicines appear safe. However, there’s little, if any, information available about the safety of other homeopathic products.
      Some products labeled as homeopathic aren’t very dilute, and a few have caused side effects, drug interactions, or other safety concerns.

      If a person wants to take them, they should be at least aware that the premier medical science organization in the US says they “aren’t better than a placebo.” and that some “have caused side effects, drug interactions, or other safety concerns.”

      • So what does that have to do with the fact that these are material doses?

        And high potency remedies, beyond the Avogadro limit, cannot have drug interactions or safety concerns if they are nothing but water, right? Prozac is no better than a placebo, either, but it has side effects.

      • Charles II said

        The very term “material doses” has no meaning in western medicine, Mahakal. But suppose that we translate that term into “effective dose.” PW has pointed out that Traumeel and Nelson’s Acne Gel contain effective doses of alcohol (and, for the latter, tea tree oil) and that the “etheric” componentsare present in quantities that make them minor and ineffective contaminants.

        The fact that actual medicines, like Prozac, have been misused and have side effects is not relevant to a discussion of homeopathics. Prozac is effective in moderate-major depression,OCD, panic disorder, and bulimia… just not in minor depression:

        A 2009 systematic review by the National Institute of Care and Clinical Excellence (NICE) (which considered the Kirsch, but not the later meta-analyses) concluded strong evidence existed for the efficacy of SSRIs in the treatment of moderate and severe depression, with some evidence for their efficacy in the treatment of mild depression.

        Now, one can say that Prozac’s not much better than placebo and that it carries risks; for some people those are serious. But for some people, it works extremely well, and restores joy and function to their lives.

        I think it’s important even for people who think that western medicine has failed to occasionally go back and check what it’s actually saying.

      • Without entering into a long debate on the merits or demerits of various pharmaceutical, we can agree I hope that many of them have turned out to be less than they at first seemed, and with great harmful effects in some cases.

        And as for homeopathic remedies. which are above 12C in potency, (note that this is an important number, below which we are not talking about anything that involves understanding of electrostatics), we can agree as well that the physical material of the dose is nothing but sugar and water. So even if it is a placebo, in these potencies it can do no harm.

  3. kaleberg said

    “Tincture”, of course, means solution in alcohol. Sounds like a theory to me.

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