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Westboro Schism

Posted by Charles II on February 8, 2013

David Batty, The Guardian:

One of the most prominent members of the Westboro Baptist church has left it after spending her life as part of the fervently anti-gay movement.

Megan Phelps-Roper, who looked after social media for the church best known for its slogan “God hates fags”, announced her departure in a post on the blogging platform Medium in which she also revealed her younger sister Grace, 19, was also leaving.

Phelps-Roper writes: “We know that we’ve done and said things that hurt people. Inflicting pain on others wasn’t the goal, but it was one of the outcomes. We wish it weren’t so, and regret that hurt.

Here’s the story of her conversion from Jeff Chu:

“My doubts started with a conversation I had with David Abitbol,” she says. Megan met David, an Israeli web developer who’s part of the team behind the blog Jewlicious, on Twitter. “I would ask him questions about Judaism, and he would ask me questions about church doctrine. One day, he asked a specific question about one of our signs—‘Death Penalty for Fags’—and I was arguing for the church’s position, that it was a Levitical punishment and as completely appropriate now as it was then. He said, ‘But Jesus said’—and I thought it was funny he was quoting Jesus—‘Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.’ And then he connected it to another member of the church who had done something that, according to the Old Testament, was also punishable by death. I realized that if the death penalty was instituted for any sin, you completely cut off the opportunity to repent. And that’s what Jesus was talking about.”

Here is Megan and Grace’s statement.

It’s just amazing what can happen to people who open their hearts to being truthful, non-hypocritical, and loving…what some of us call Jesus.

Posted in Fred Phelps, Fundies, Good Things, religion | 2 Comments »

It’s an amazing country: how a fundamentalist Christian explored the world of homosexuality and found Jesus

Posted by Charles II on October 13, 2012

Paul Harris, The Guardian:

Timothy Kurek grew up hating homosexuality. As a conservative Christian deep in America’s Bible belt, he had been taught that being gay was an abomination before God. He went to his right-wing church, saw himself as a soldier for Christ and attended Liberty University, the “evangelical West Point”.

But when a Christian friend in a karaoke bar told him how her family had kicked her out when she revealed she was a lesbian, Kurek began to question profoundly his beliefs and religious teaching. Amazingly, the 26-year-old decided to “walk in the shoes” of a gay man in America by pretending to be homosexual.

For an entire year Kurek lived “under cover” as a homosexual in his home town of Nashville. He told his family he was gay, as well as his friends and his church. Only two pals and an aunt – used to keep an eye on how his mother coped with the news – knew his secret.

This is truly an inspirational story. One only wishes that more fundamentalists would try to see things through the eyes of their opponents. What Kurek did in trying to understand those he despised is the real meaning of “love your neighbor as yourself”.

Posted in Fundies, gay rights, Good Things | 1 Comment »

Another outcome possible in Egypt

Posted by Charles II on December 19, 2011

It has occurred to me that the recent elections have made another, unanticipated outcome possible in the Egyptian uprising.

The military could very easily co-opt the Islamists by offering them Islamic law in exchange for continued military rule. The Islamists would be fools to reject that deal…and fools to accept it.

What got me to thinking that is looking at what is going on in Egypt. The people fighting in Tahrir Square are mostly westernized youth, although the woman who was assaulted by the military police, beaten, and nearly stripped naked was apparently wearing a hijab [the world owes RT a debt for being one of the few media outlets that got its film out. Most media outlets were stripped of their cameras by the military].

Meanwhile, the Islamic parties are doing even better in the second round of elections than they did in the first. The Muslim brotherhood will have a near majority, and the Islamic fundamentalists about 30%. The assault on the woman should have been an absolute outrage to the Islamists, but they seem to be more interested in putting down the Coptic minority. If they wanted to resist military rule, the humiliation of a conservative woman seems like a helluva missed chance. [Added: the Muslim Brotherhood has filed a complaint about the murder of protesters]

Sharif Abdel Kouddous from Democracy Now:

SHARIF ABDEL KOUDDOUS: Just with regard to the elections, as you mentioned, the Muslim Brotherhood has captured about 40 percent of the seats. The real surprise has been the ultraconservative Salafis, who have made very big gains. And liberal parties have come a very, very distant third. And revolutionary youth parties have captured almost a negligible amount. The Muslim Brotherhood has not really participated in these protests whatsoever. They want the elections to go forward as planned, because they stand to gain the most from them. And they are being very severely accused by the revolutionary youth of political opportunism in the face of a real clampdown by the army 10 months after this revolution began.

If the Islamists go along with the military, they will have absolute power over the government. And the military will have absolute power over them, because they have been so conspicuously absent from the Resistance since the elections were announced that they have no bargaining power with the military. But since the secular Resistance has been isolated and beaten down, the imposition of Islamic law would be very easy. Since the Islamists , especially the fundamentalist among them, are not all that concerned with civil liberties, what do they have to lose by forming a tacit alliance with the military?

Except, of course, any freedom that the uprising might have gained. It’s a deal that even Israel could easily live with.

Posted in Arab Spring, Fundies, military | 1 Comment »

The best thing since the Branch Davidians

Posted by Charles II on February 17, 2010

Pity Waco.

Ken Starr has been named the President of Baylor College in Waco. Waco was famous, of course, for the Branch Davidian cult, which murdered several officers of the law (and suffered six deaths) to avoid being served with a warrant, thereby precipitating a law enforcement p–sing match in which 76 more Davidians including many children lost their lives. This is his vision for the college:

“Students. That’s what it’s all about. That’s why the faculty come together. The faculty come together to breed conversation and discovery,” said Starr.

As long as it doesn’t contradict the Scofield Bible.

You can read the rest of the smarmy little dishonest vision of this smarmy little man here. You may want to have your bath gear handy.

Posted in conservativism, corruption, Fundies, history | 2 Comments »

Stick A Fork In Mike Huckabee

Posted by Phoenix Woman on November 29, 2009

He’s done:

Washington authorities are seeking Maurice Clemmons, 37, for questioning in the slaying of four Washington police officers. Clemmons is wanted in Arkansas, where he has an extensive criminal record…

My source says the man wanted for questioning is believed to be the same Maurice Clemmons as an Arkansas ex-con with an extensive record of armed robbery who became a subject of some controversy for political reasons. That Maurice Clemmons was among those who became controversial for having received a commuted sentence from then-Gov. Mike Huckabee in 2000 (of a 35-year armed robbery sentence), then went on to commit other crimes. This has the potential of making Wayne Dumond look like a small-timer…

To refresh your memory, Wayne Dumond is the guy who savagely raped a cousin of then-President Bill Clinton’s. The far-right get-Clinton crowd, just because they wanted to make Clinton suffer (and didn’t give a rat’s ass about Dumond’s victims), started pretending he was innocent and Huckabee, playing along, paroled Dumond — who then went out and murdered a woman.

The Fundies had no problem with Huckabee’s pardoning a violent rapist as a way to tick off Bill Clinton. But they will have a problem with another of the Huckster’s clemency recipients going out and killing four cops. Sarah Palin must already be dancing for joy here — Huckabee was the main obstacle to her Hoovering up the Fundie contingent for 2012.

Posted in Bill Clinton, Fundies, Mike Huckabee, Republicans, Republicans acting badly, Republicans as cancer, rightwing moral cripples, Sarah Palin | 2 Comments »

The Gathering Storm!

Posted by Phoenix Woman on April 14, 2009

Just perfect:

From the fine folks at Shoot the Messenger and Wake Up World.

Posted in false prophets, Fundies, gay rights | 1 Comment »

Biblically correct

Posted by Charles II on March 12, 2009


Via Avedon Carol‘s (incomparable) Sideshow, we learn of a protest at The University of Chicago against Westboro Baptist Church, the vehicle of Fred Phelps & kin for their campaign of vengeance against, well, almost everyone:

The Westboro Baptist Church brought their show to campus, leading the student body to a myriad of counter-protests and celebrations of pride and diversity. Whatever the WBC’s goals are, we’ll never know, but the students’ voice was heard loud and clear: “Many identities, one community.”

Posted in fearmongering, Fred Phelps, Fundies, Good Things | 4 Comments »

Just for the record

Posted by Charles II on December 9, 2008

Bush is not a fundamentalist. From AP:

Interviewer Cynthia McFadden [of ABC Nightline] asked Bush if the Bible was literally true.

“You know. Probably not. … No, I’m not a literalist, but I think you can learn a lot from it, but I do think that the New Testament for example is … has got … You know, the important lesson is ‘God sent a son,'” Bush said.

One of the things, of many, that galled me about Bush is that he completely misled his own followers. They thought he was born again. He is not. They thought he was a fundamentalist. He is not. If his followers knew about him what I know, they would never have voted him. But, then, they’re too %$#@* stupid to figure out how they’ve been used.

Fake cowboy. Fake accent. Fake religion.

Posted in Bush, Corporate Christianity, Fundies | 2 Comments »

Colin Powell’s Revenge

Posted by Phoenix Woman on October 20, 2008

Back in 1995, when he was still being praised and mentioned in the press as one of the heroes of Desert Storm, Colin Powell was one of the early favorites for the 1996 Republican presidential nomination. He was a desirable candidate, from the GOP’s perspective, for many reasons: He was popular, he was considered a war hero, he was thought to be honest and forthright (which made a nice contrast to the “Slick Willie” image the Republicans were hanging on Bill Clinton), and his Jamaican heritage would enable the Republicans to claim credit for being the first major political party to nominate a black man for president even as they continued to uphold the racist “Southern Strategy” that locked up the South and certain white-flight suburbs across America.

But then, he made a big mistake. A big, big, big mistake. He let it be known that he considered himself a “Rockefeller Republican”.

Immediately, the Confederate/Bigot wing of the GOP and the conservative movement set upon him, and with great vehemence. Pat Buchanan, Paul Weyrich and Gary Bauer were among those leading the charge. They had just finished purging the Rockefeller Republicans from all positions of power within Congress and within the party, and they weren’t about to let one become president. As Phyllis Schlafly said (original Eagle Forum link was here; it’s now dead): “It is a puzzlement why Colin Powell identified himself as a ‘Rockefeller Republican,’ when Nelson Rockefeller was the quintessential representative of the eastern liberal establishment. To the grassroots conservatives who are now the dominant majority in the Republican Party, Rockefeller Republicanism means ‘in your face’ Big Government liberalism.”

Furthermore, the bigots had been waiting for an excuse, any excuse, to oppose the candidacy of a black man; Powell’s calling himself a “Rockefeller Republican” was all the excuse they needed. William F. Buckley, recognizing that having Powell somewhere on the Republican ticket was the only way to beat Clinton in 1996, tried to raise enthusiasm among his fellow conservatives for the idea of having Powell as Bob Dole’s running mate, but to no avail.

The hardcores of the religio-racist right wing have continued to kick at Powell ever since, especially after the second Bush, in a sop to the moderate voters, followed through on his promise to make Powell Secretary of State — a position where Powell found himself increasingly outgunned by the neocons and the religio-racist right-wingers. He was not only unable to stop Bush and the PNAC Platoon’s push for invading Iraq, he actually promoted the yellowcake forgeries as legitimate proof that Saddam was on the verge of possessing nuclear weapons, even though they had already been debunked.

So now, Colin Powell, attacked and made to serve as the humiliating “moderate makeup” on an extreme neocon regime, finally gets his revenge on the people who scotched his 1996 presidential hopes by putting what prestige remains to him into an endorsement of one of the few people they hate more than him, Barack Obama.

Revenge is sweet.

Posted in 2008, faith-based flim-flams, false prophets, Flying Monkey Right, Fundies, Iraq war, Republicans, rightwing moral cripples | 2 Comments »

Republicans: People of the Lie

Posted by Phoenix Woman on September 13, 2008

George W. Bush lied us into war with Iraq, lied about taxes, and lies pretty much about everything of consequence and sometimes things that aren’t.

Just as John McCain’s been a rubber-stamp for Bush on Iraq and every issue of importance, he also lies just like Bush — a fact that the national media is only now starting to acknowledge.

But now, perhaps spurred by the realization that McCain’s bypassing Joe Lieberman for Sarah Palin confirms that the GOP is now a wholly-owned subsidiary of the religio-racist right, the stories on the lies of McCain, Palin and other Republican figures are finally being published:

McCain Barbs Stirring Outcry as Distortions (New York Times)

Harsh advertisements and negative attacks are a staple of presidential campaigns, but Senator John McCain has drawn an avalanche of criticism this week from Democrats, independent groups and even some Republicans for regularly stretching the truth in attacking Senator Barack Obama’s record and positions…

McCain Wrong on Palin Earmarks (Los Angeles Times)

NEW YORK — John McCain got it wrong Friday when he asserted that his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, had not requested any earmarks, the spending directives lawmakers insert in spending bills that McCain has vowed to eliminate.

Palin, in fact, requested $198 million in federal earmarks in February, including such expenses as $487,000 to fight obesity in Alaska and $4 million to develop recreational trails.

McCain Lambasted for Inaccuracies (Seattle Times)

Sen. John McCain has drawn an avalanche of criticism this week from Democrats, independent groups and some Republicans for regularly stretching the truth in attacking Sen. Barack Obama’s record and positions.

Obama also has been accused of distortions, but McCain is under fire for two headline-grabbing attacks. First, the McCain campaign twisted Obama’s words to suggest he had compared GOP vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin to a pig after Obama questioned McCain’s claim to be a change agent by saying, “You can put lipstick on a pig; it’s still a pig.” (McCain has used the same expression to describe Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s health plan.)

He then falsely claimed that Obama supported “comprehensive sex ed” for kindergartners. (Obama supported teaching them to be alert for inappropriate advances from adults.)

Palin, McCain Contradict Each Other on Spending (San Francisco Chronicle)

In a televised interview Friday, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin defended her request for an estimated $200 million in federal projects from Congress – even as earlier in the day her GOP running mate John McCain insisted Palin had never sought money from Congress.

McCain Wraps Distortions Around One Truth (Washington Post)


He was the world’s biggest celebrity, but his star’s fading. So they lashed out at Sarah Palin. Dismissed her as “good-looking.” That backfired, so they said she was doing “what she was told.” Then desperately called Sarah Palin a liar. How disrespectful. And how Governor Sarah Palin proves them wrong, every day.


This John McCain commercial, which contains two significant distortions, is part of a larger effort to rule criticism of his running mate out of bounds and to paint her as the victim of unfair attacks from both Democrats and the media.

Palin Reviews Are In, and Gibson Got a… (New York Times)

After taking in some of Charles Gibson’s interviews with the Republican vice-presidential nominee, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, Paul Begala sounded ready to cast his vote.

“I thought one person on my television screen looked ready to assume the presidency,” Mr. Begala, the CNN commentator, said by telephone on Friday. “It wasn’t Governor Palin.”

Fact Check: McCain on Palin and Earmarks (Dallas Morning News)

For more on John McCain’s incorrect claim that Sarah Palin has sought no earmarks as governor, click here. The Associated Press reports that Ms. Palin “asked for nearly $200 million in targeted spending for the 2009 fiscal year.”

Along the same lines, McClatchy declares a new Republican ad “out of bounds” for its claim that Ms. Palin “vetoed nearly half a billion dollars in wasteful spending and cut earmark requests by hundreds of millions of dollars.” While technically true, McClatchy says, the ad takes the remark out of context enough that its meaning is distorted.

They even lie about the size of the crowds at Sarah Palin events.  Oh, and when McCain says he won’t raise your taxes, he’s lying there, too.

They are, indeed, the People of the Lie.

Posted in 2008, Barack Obama, Bush, BushCo malfeasance, Busheviks, faith-based flim-flams, false prophets, family values, Fundies, John McCain, Republicans acting badly, rightwing moral cripples | 1 Comment »

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